Smoking Makes You Gay

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Atleast that's what this video says


New Anti-Smoking Ads Warn Teens 'It's Gay To Smoke'

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sceneless said:

Rage_Proletaire said:

Mlle d. Sade said:

With drugs and alcohol it's personal demons that expedite addiction but with smoking it's all choice.

Choice is also a factor in drug/alcohol addiction as well. Smoking can most definitely become aggravated into a habit when there's a perceived need for it. Again, for me personally, it's the oral fixation combined with what I've always seen as a social deficiency. And yes, that nihilism you mentioned is at work, too.

I'd prefer a constructive addiction -- still working on finding or creating one. Could certainly use it at this stage. Don't know what the political landscape will be in twenty years, but I already feel like a fossil in some respects -- a gap between generations -- I'll have been forced to quit durng my lifetime, because of a shift in a political tide (I don't think it has anything to do with a concern for health, just the manner in which "we" handle it collectively), and there are kids born in the wake of (and after) the backlash against the fast-food/live-today-die-tomorrow era, telling me I should've never smoked in the first place.

But as I've been driven to consider (with my children in mind), access to influences determines a lot about what a person picks up and attempts to use to their perceived benefit. Smoking and drinking are short-term balms -- they're always around, but I couldn't just head off to the coast to go hiking in the Alps if I wanted to (not an excuse, but hey!). I cannot afford many of the things I'd like to introduce into my lifestyle, but I can almost always afford a pack of smokes, alcohol, or something other than tobacco. Not looking to displace blame on behalf of anybody, but that's the way it is. And I remember when it was still "gay" to not smoke as you stepped across the adolescent-early twenties bridge; there are still kids who get caught up in "I can't be seen at the YMCA. That's gay -- I must get my exercise in the streets. And they smoke while on their way.

The money aspect of it is most shameful to me, personally. It goes without saying that it's all bad math to pay someone else for your own demise.

sceneless said:

I used to be able to go to clubs, and not care when I left smelling like I rolled around in a chimney, but now that shit kinda bothers me.

Felt. I used to hate wearing my good jackets (since I don't make "dry cleaning" type-wages) on nights out; I want to go see Skinny Puppy next month, but I feel like even if I don't smoke, I'll smell like somebody else's smoke anyway. Might as well smell like mine, if I've a choice.

I feel you. I think I lucked out, in the since that I'm just naturally not into smoking. My dad and his friends were smokers, but I guess it never influenced me. Like alot of kids, I went through that phase where I tried to smoke but it just never caught on.

I'm not gonna knock smokers, considering there's plenty of shit I do that others don't agree with. I do feel kinda bad for you guys though. Cigarette prices here are ridiculous, and because it's an addiction people will still pay for them. They have you guys by the balls/tits.

What is it with alternative people and smoking?

Well, smoking has been "sexy" and admittedly unhealthy simultaneously. And legal. It's a cynic's dream-drug.

I hated the first one I smoked (stole one from my sup at work; we were in a tiny McDonald's Express, and she smoked indoors. In the fuckng window, no less). I was stubborn about it, and gave it another shot when I found out the legendary cloves were sold in lil' Baton Rouge. A pack would last me a week, and I'd make an event out of each and every smoke (going outside to read and sip something for hours). It went downhill once I started smoking and driving -- hands always had to stay busy.

I dunno if it's because I felt compelled to control other people's perceptions of me as a black male, but I hated being in public with my arms at my side (I felt exposed). And other black gents would tell me to never keep my hands in my pockets, or I'd be all the more suspect. Cigarettes kept me looking "normal" while idle, and unapproachable (because of the cloud of smoke).

Heh...

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Cool beans DURKA DURKA!! said:

Rage_Proletaire said:

Cool beans DURKA DURKA!! said:

Rage_Proletaire said:

Cool beans DURKA DURKA!! said:

Smokers are soooo fucking stupid. How many times has someone told you retarded fucks that you'll get many diseases from the shit and yet you still smoke? Really this isn't a smear campaign, IT'S REAL, unlike weed campaigns. "Fuck smoking, it's for retards who think cancer is fake" I really think if a confirmed case of cancer is from smoking, you should be left to die with no treatment, instead of fucking it up for other people, leave hospital beds to responsible people.

Have you ever tried to impart your point-of-view without some of the overbearing self-righteousness? You sound as if you've never been persuaded into making a purchase (which proved not to be worth your while) before.


I'm fond of the F-word too, but you wouldn't have my ears (were I in need of persuasion) with the Mickey Rourke ballsack-in-the-zipper commando talk.

You know I haven't bought anything that I actually didn't need in about a year?
That means x2 $40 dollar monthly bus passes for the pass 2 months, food, books for school, some clothes just because my old ones are worn out. Nope I haven't been persuaded into buying anything in a while, food, drink or anything. Basically the only that that has caught my eye that's not need, is video games, which I haven't even gotten one in months, oh and I went to comic con yesterday and got some comics.

But if I have food, a bed, and basically a roof over mah head, I'm good.

Well, blessed be.

But should you ever have the chance to rub shoulders with a recovering addict of any sort, you might that there's a reason why they find recovery easier with the aid of someone who's walked the same walk than an armchair omnigod screaming from a podium.

I live in a block with 2 halfway homes, one right next door, I get those guys, a drunk uncle had his girlfriend put some bad stuff in his bottle, and punched my 15 year old sister in the forehead as hard as he can while wilding out, for no reason.(who's mind is now fucked) , and an uncle that used to use coke, and my mom's supervisor who I knew well, smoked, had a stroke, and died slowly of cancer. I'm not giving any mercy out though.

Understood -- mercy's not always the most benevolent friend. That wasn't to say you're totally out of touch (not my place to say so, one way or the other); it just sounded like screaming, for a second. And nobody listens to preachers who've never had dirt under their own nails, unless they're looking to be saved by someone they see as "better" than themselves. I'm too arrogant to go for that, usually, so I understand the cats who walk out on certain sermons and head for the dives.

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Cool beans DURKA DURKA!! said:

Smokers are soooo fucking stupid. How many times has someone told you retarded fucks that you'll get many diseases from the shit and yet you still smoke? Really this isn't a smear campaign, IT'S REAL, unlike weed campaigns. "Fuck smoking, it's for retards who think cancer is fake" I really think if a confirmed case of cancer is from smoking, you should be left to die with no treatment, instead of fucking it up for other people, leave hospital beds to responsible people.

Have you nothing CONSTRUCTIVE to ad to the conversation, besides calling people "dumb stupid retards"?

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LMAO. I understand that the approach by the "doctor" for preventing kids to start smoking may bring up other problems, but it really is a funny solution that I could see actually working. LOL. I think that is the funniest part of the whole video, I could actually see their prevention methods working. Of course, I still don't agree that it would be a constructive way of prevention, and it would cause other harm in the near future. Onion's great!