R.I.P. John Allen Muhammad

[Darkness Unlimited*]

ALLEGED D.C. "sniper" John Allen Muhammad has been fallen by order ov death from the U.S. Govt. at Greensville Correctional Center in Jarratt,VA tonight. John's chemical lynching came at 9:11pm, clearly such a time was choosen for purely symbolic reasons. John's attorney Wyndal Gordon disrcibed his [former] client as "fearless and insisting he was innocent". Alas, we shall never know whether he was truely guilty, eventhough he's been "found guilty" by our so-called "justice" system.
Much condolences to John's family...

[Obsidian]

I feel nothing for this serial killer. I have a lot of family who lived in the area of his killings during the period he was killing people. Even if I didn't, serial killers deserve everything they get, even Black ones.

The question of his innocence? His ex-wife feels this whole killing spree may have been a cover that he could use to kill her when the time was right (as she had moved to the area right before the killings started). The reason - for revenge for her leaving him because he was a demented psycho control freak who became that way after coming back from the Iraq conflict of the early 90's a changed man suffering from some serious PTSD. He would not be he first black soldier to have lost his marbles and went out and killed his family because of psychopathy that emerged after a period of extreme duress as a soldier.

Article / interview from Black Voices about Malvo's ex-wife:

http://www.bvonbooks.com/2009/10/09/mildred-muhammad-wife-of-dc-sni...

Trutv crime article about fathers who kill with spotlight on Paul Harrington (a black man) who murdered his family twice:

http://www.trutv.com/library/crime/criminal_mind/psychology/fathers...

From what I've read. John has already been dead to his family and he leaves behind an abused ex wife and children who have to live with his fucked-upness for the rest of their lives, not to mention the families of his victims and that kid Malvo that he brainwashed and now has ruined his life forever. RIP my ass.

Really Damos. There is a difference between insisting on innocence because you don't want to die vs truly being innocent. Give us something we can work with that would throw doubt in the face of him being the perp who terrorized the DC area? Besides his lawyer said he was innocent because he was trying to push an insanity plea - as in he is guilty of murder but innocent of intent because he is insane.


The story according to wikipedia:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Allen_Muhammad

Another article from Black Voices on Why the US produces such killers like John Allen:

http://www.bvblackspin.com/2009/10/31/john-allen-muhammad-execution/

[kifaru]

Damos, why are you giving props to this nut? He's a murderer. A smart one but a murderer non the less.

[CocoaPuss Zine]

I agree. He killed over ten people. Justice was done. It doesn't really bring back the people who are gone, but he isn't costing the govt any more money. Good riddance.

kifaru said:

Damos, why are you giving props to this nut? He's a murderer. A smart one but a murderer non the less.

[kifaru]

Muddy dicks? That doesn't sound good?

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DJ Random Brotha said:

He'll be rottin' in shit & piss soon.

Damos the attention whore is at it again.

Rotting in shit 'n piss? WOW, alittle over-dramatic, don't you think? So, all ov a sudden everyone here has 100% faith in our "justice" system? ALL the criminals are behind bars & WE're all safe, is that it huh?

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Obsidian said:

I feel nothing for this serial killer. I have a lot of family who lived in the area of his killings during the period he was killing people. Even if I didn't, serial killers deserve everything they get, even Black ones.

The question of his innocence? His ex-wife feels this whole killing spree may have been a cover that he could use to kill her when the time was right (as she had moved to the area right before the killings started). The reason - for revenge for her leaving him because he was a demented psycho control freak who became that way after coming back from the Iraq conflict of the early 90's a changed man suffering from some serious PTSD. He would not be he first black soldier to have lost his marbles and went out and killed his family because of psychopathy that emerged after a period of extreme duress as a soldier.

Article / interview from Black Voices about Malvo's ex-wife:

http://www.bvonbooks.com/2009/10/09/mildred-muhammad-wife-of-dc-sni...

Trutv crime article about fathers who kill with spotlight on Paul Harrington (a black man) who murdered his family twice:

http://www.trutv.com/library/crime/criminal_mind/psychology/fathers...

From what I've read. John has already been dead to his family and he leaves behind an abused ex wife and children who have to live with his fucked-upness for the rest of their lives, not to mention the families of his victims and that kid Malvo that he brainwashed and now has ruined his life forever. RIP my ass.

Really Damos. There is a difference between insisting on innocence because you don't want to die vs truly being innocent. Give us something we can work with that would throw doubt in the face of him being the perp who terrorized the DC area? Besides his lawyer said he was innocent because he was trying to push an insanity plea - as in he is guilty of murder but innocent of intent because he is insane.


The story according to wikipedia:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Allen_Muhammad

Another article from Black Voices on Why the US produces such killers like John Allen:

http://www.bvblackspin.com/2009/10/31/john-allen-muhammad-execution/

You with all your little links, who has time to read it all?

[Obsidian]

The links are there for who who want to explore and to back up my words so as to show I'm not pulling strings out of thin air. Damos, you are all shock, give us substance if you want folk to take you seriously. A few links would do nicely, especially after starting a tribute thread to John Allen claiming he was innocent. I want to take you seriously and admire your balls, but right now this is just laughable without any backup material.

Darkness Unlimited* said:

Obsidian said:

I feel nothing for this serial killer. I have a lot of family who lived in the area of his killings during the period he was killing people. Even if I didn't, serial killers deserve everything they get, even Black ones.

The question of his innocence? His ex-wife feels this whole killing spree may have been a cover that he could use to kill her when the time was right (as she had moved to the area right before the killings started). The reason - for revenge for her leaving him because he was a demented psycho control freak who became that way after coming back from the Iraq conflict of the early 90's a changed man suffering from some serious PTSD. He would not be he first black soldier to have lost his marbles and went out and killed his family because of psychopathy that emerged after a period of extreme duress as a soldier.

Article / interview from Black Voices about Malvo's ex-wife:

http://www.bvonbooks.com/2009/10/09/mildred-muhammad-wife-of-dc-sni...

Trutv crime article about fathers who kill with spotlight on Paul Harrington (a black man) who murdered his family twice:

http://www.trutv.com/library/crime/criminal_mind/psychology/fathers...

From what I've read. John has already been dead to his family and he leaves behind an abused ex wife and children who have to live with his fucked-upness for the rest of their lives, not to mention the families of his victims and that kid Malvo that he brainwashed and now has ruined his life forever. RIP my ass.

Really Damos. There is a difference between insisting on innocence because you don't want to die vs truly being innocent. Give us something we can work with that would throw doubt in the face of him being the perp who terrorized the DC area? Besides his lawyer said he was innocent because he was trying to push an insanity plea - as in he is guilty of murder but innocent of intent because he is insane.


The story according to wikipedia:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Allen_Muhammad

Another article from Black Voices on Why the US produces such killers like John Allen:

http://www.bvblackspin.com/2009/10/31/john-allen-muhammad-execution/

You with all your little links, who has time to read it all?

[Darkness Unlimited*]

DJ Random Brotha said:

Damos, please notice that I posted nothing of the sort, how nice of you to attmept and change the subject of the retard topic that you posted.

Also, what exactly has he done that he deserves a "RIP"? Shooting a 13 year old who was just minding his own? Killing a 25 year old woman? Are you playin' with yourself right now or are you just trying to "shock" people with nut gripping?

Oh, yeah he did warp the mind of a misguided young brother all because his beautiful wife didn't want to deal with his crazy ass.

Like I said, he'll be rotting in shit & piss soon.

Darkness Unlimited* said:

DJ Random Brotha said:

He'll be rottin' in shit & piss soon.

Damos the attention whore is at it again.

Rotting in shit 'n piss? WOW, alittle over-dramatic, don't you think? So, all ov a sudden everyone here has 100% faith in our "justice" system? ALL the criminals are behind bars & WE're all safe, is that it huh?

And exactly what do you mean by, "he'll be rotting in shit & piss soon"? Will he be buried in a septic tank? Like i said, abit over-dramatic. Why don't you take all ov that reactionary emotion, & use it to write some emo-poetry? And why do YOU keep trying to change the subject? Why don't you want to talk about this country's obscene joke ov a judicial system? This is more than just one man & his alleged crimes. This is about a corrupt, colonial system that warehouses & liqudates people like common [product]. Not to mention racism & anti-Muslim hysteria being the big fat elephants in the room.
If you want to be all "rightous" then go right ahead. But you know i'm onto something here, even if YOU don't approve ov the particular subject.

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Obsidian said:

The links are there for who who want to explore and to back up my words so as to show I'm not pulling strings out of thin air. Damos, you are all shock, give us substance if you want folk to take you seriously. A few links would do nicely, especially after starting a tribute thread to John Allen claiming he was innocent. I want to take you seriously and admire your balls, but right now this is just laughable without any backup material.

Darkness Unlimited* said:

Obsidian said:

I feel nothing for this serial killer. I have a lot of family who lived in the area of his killings during the period he was killing people. Even if I didn't, serial killers deserve everything they get, even Black ones.

The question of his innocence? His ex-wife feels this whole killing spree may have been a cover that he could use to kill her when the time was right (as she had moved to the area right before the killings started). The reason - for revenge for her leaving him because he was a demented psycho control freak who became that way after coming back from the Iraq conflict of the early 90's a changed man suffering from some serious PTSD. He would not be he first black soldier to have lost his marbles and went out and killed his family because of psychopathy that emerged after a period of extreme duress as a soldier.

Article / interview from Black Voices about Malvo's ex-wife:

http://www.bvonbooks.com/2009/10/09/mildred-muhammad-wife-of-dc-sni...

Trutv crime article about fathers who kill with spotlight on Paul Harrington (a black man) who murdered his family twice:

http://www.trutv.com/library/crime/criminal_mind/psychology/fathers...

From what I've read. John has already been dead to his family and he leaves behind an abused ex wife and children who have to live with his fucked-upness for the rest of their lives, not to mention the families of his victims and that kid Malvo that he brainwashed and now has ruined his life forever. RIP my ass.

Really Damos. There is a difference between insisting on innocence because you don't want to die vs truly being innocent. Give us something we can work with that would throw doubt in the face of him being the perp who terrorized the DC area? Besides his lawyer said he was innocent because he was trying to push an insanity plea - as in he is guilty of murder but innocent of intent because he is insane.


The story according to wikipedia:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Allen_Muhammad

Another article from Black Voices on Why the US produces such killers like John Allen:

http://www.bvblackspin.com/2009/10/31/john-allen-muhammad-execution/

You with all your little links, who has time to read it all?

I didn't say John was innocent. What i said was that his lawyer discribed his client (John) as being, "fearless & insisting on his innocence". I merely questioned whether the brother was ever "guilty" ov such crimes, to begin with. Shit, he might be. But i'm not sure i'm willing to take the U.S. govt's word for it.

[CocoaPuss Zine]

of course there are people in jail who are innocent, everyone knows that. i think people just want to know why you want him to RIP. that's what the thread is about. it isn't really about the judicial system, that seems secondary almost. maybe you don't agree with the death penalty or don't agree with the verdict, that's fine, but how do you know he wasn't guilty?

[Obsidian]

^^^
That's why I included the links so that an understanding of the case can be given and opinions formed. As much as I detest the whole system, in this case John Allen appears very guilty. Perhaps it is the perfect setup, but I think the testimony of his ex wife is very telling into what could have motivated him. This is not like the Child Killings in Georgia during the late 70's early 80's and how the perp caught for it was railroaded through the justice system when he may have only been guilty of killing one or two, and the other killers got off scotch free and continued killing.

As for not taking the US govt word on it, I can respect that even if I side with them on this guy.

[Darkness Unlimited*]

Like i said, i never actually said whether or not he was completely innocent or guilty. But in any case that's besides the point.