!!! AGAINST THE GRAIN: POST YOUR UNPOPULAR OPINIONS !!!

[Daoud]

It's BACK!

An all time great thread from the AP 1.0 foundation.

Massive props goes to the originator Onomatrix who brought us this powerful forum, inspired by by a forum on Playahata.com (if I'm correct). Ono, get on here and set it off with your unique perspective.

Objective: express the opinions that would normally get your run out of town if vocalized or presented. Example:

= Obama is not the best candidate but he's all we've got

= Black folks are our own worst enemy

= Women are too emotional

= Men are too emotionless

= Censorship is a good idea

= All women with perms hate their natural selves

= All men with dreads date white women

= Folks under 30 don't know anything about good music

= Chocolate owns vanilla

= J-Dilla couldn't touch Premeir, Large Pro, Pete Rock or Dre

...and so on (disclaimer: all the above examples do NOT represent my personal views, one or two maybe...).

This is not a place for full on debate & violent conflict, but please be free in how you express. And keep the page long flame-wars to private messages and off the boards.

Ready? Let's go!

[Death is Drunk]

Roman Polanski needs to stop being a pussy and should have gotten this shit done and over with 30 years ago. The most he'd spend in prison is 90 days and the least is 45 days for drugging and rapping a 13 year old. There are people who have done less and get more time. He's not being persecuted he's still a revered director and gets a standing ovation at every fucking event he attends. The way his supporters are acting as if he's going to spend years in prison when he wasn't. Fuck this shit I mean he's not an outcast in Hollywood. Michael was an outcast before he died. Fuck, Winona Ryder stole some clothing and her career haven't been the same since then. It suffered greatly and here's a convicted rapist complaining about not being treated fairly *sighs*

[BlaqJeff]

Death is Drunk said:

Roman Polanski needs to stop being a pussy and should have gotten this shit done and over with 30 years ago. The most he'd spend in prison is 90 days and the least is 45 days for drugging and rapping a 13 year old. There are people who have done less and get more time. He's not being persecuted he's still a revered director and gets a standing ovation at every fucking event he attends. The way his supporters are acting as if he's going to spend years in prison when he wasn't. Fuck this shit I mean he's not an outcast in Hollywood. Michael was an outcast before he died. Fuck, Winona Ryder stole some clothing and her career haven't been the same since then. It suffered greatly and here's a convicted rapist complaining about not being treated fairly *sighs*

Let me add on to that. Fuck Roman Polanski!
And fuck his supporters! All of them. The dude drugged and raped a thirteen year old girl! He is not a hero and someone who should be revered and the fact that they are signing petitions to free this man reveals a lot about who these folks are. Somethings should be inexcusable, and adult relations with a minor(let's not forget the drugging) should be a line that should never be crossed. Those folks should be ashamed of themselves.

Man, Hollywood liberals and Catholic priests have a lot in common.

[CocoaPuss Zine]

i'm sure you're nice, but if i wanted to get friend requests from white girls, i'd join blackplanet.

wow. that's all i can say.

[CocoaPuss Zine]

people did that to el machetero too because he's latino. even other people from AP joined in and it's fucked up. i'm sorry that AP isn't what it should be for the people who actually are a part of it and play a huge role in keeping it going.

i'm not sure what thread you're talking about because i don't read all of them and stay away from the political/feminist/racist ones because i hate arguing (i did family court for way too long). but maybe i'll try to find it now.

nobody ever says anything when someone here is getting picked on. people call themselves "punk" and they sit on their ass doing nothing. it's fucked up.

i have no hard feelings toward you. i think you're awesome. you should make a zine and write about your experiences in the punk scene and on AP. all the AP grrrls should get together and talk about all the fucked up things people say to us and then all the private notes we get asking for some ass. REVOLUTION

Mlle d. Sade said:

Well usually when people say things like that- they usually mean me. Someone could post saying my parent's are failures that they never owned a home and yet, (and pick apart every single interest I've ever mentioned with the intention of setting me off) my detractors (that seem to find something wrong with everything I say- not matter what) would go ahead and blame me. I just don't want Kifaru to get his sick kicks in by making me be silent because some of the stuff he's saying he KNOWS will piss me off and move me to respond. He's using what he knows about me when he was trying to get to know me against me. He knows what a struggle it was for me to finish school now he's being a huge, childish prick. He basically had a nervous breakdown in a thread. And no one is doing anything about it. Because that's they way things are in life- and I totally understand why El Mach left. Idiots like that always win no matter how outrageous their need to target others are.
It's funny, isn't it?

And I do not think I've ever been that malicious to another user on this site. I have my opinions and I butt heads with people of different opinions but I have never set forth to get as personal as he has. And that really says something about him- that he has that kind of time, energy and emotions invested in this site to get like that. I don't even have that kind of energy. I could give a fuck less about the pursuits of others- not enough to commit them to memory.

Yet, silence from the people who could do anything about it. That's just great. There's no loyalty anywhere and this site is no different. I've been here since 2004 and I've never seen anyone do what he's doing nor have I done it to anyone else.

And it's really sad that he's developed a personal hatred of me enough to act like he's acting. His posts speak for themselves. Why? Because I don't agree with the way he sees the world. What a need for control and power he has.

CocoaPuss Zine said:

this isn't about you. it's funny that you think it is, but it's not.
Mlle d. Sade said:

I'm not going anywhere.

CocoaPuss Zine said:

nobody likes you on here. instead of all the other people leaving, i wish you would be the one who leaves.

[Mlle d. Sade]

That post was in the wrong thread, it was an unpopular vent. But thanks for saying that, CPZ.
I was writing a VERY candid blog about the 5 worst decisions I've ever made then I stopped it. I have half of part 1 finished. ...maybe I'll actually finish it. It was called "Notes from Rock Bottom".

Kifaru inspired me to write my fabricated life in blog form, too.

[Daoud]

Too true DJ R-Bro. We don't know what 'we' want and that includes yours truly. That's the paradox within myself I was also presenting.

You will always be too "ghetto" or "white" for Black viewers because we all want fantasies & realism at the same time. It's the 'Cosby Show' syndrome.

Both Roberts made magic out of nothing and squeezed a dollar out of a nickel. Rodriquez is cutting the same path Townsend and Roger Corman blazed and Tyler Perry is paving into a superhighway. The business model is there.

DJ Random Brotha said:

To piggyback on daoud's unpop(but so unforuntaely true)opine: Black people at timesdon't know what they want when it comes to moives.

Think about, a character is too "black" they're "ghetto" or "stereotypical", if the character is "Cultured" they're "too white" or "unreal". Damn it people, what do you want?!?!

@Daoud, I think Robert Townsend would've out done Robert Rodirguiez , all he needed was bigger a budget...

Daoud said:

= In film, white supremacy is clear from how Black movie fans ride the jocks of every trendy euro/american critic's fave or flavor of the month. And how they turn their nose up at any ad featuring Black leads and say "that's why I don't like Black film..."

= Black fimmakers are responsible for their own success and shouldn't complain about how mass audiences "don't get them". You know you have to work seven times harder in this business, do it. This is world that automatically loves Quentin and hates Spike, deal with it.

= It's probably about as hard to be accepted for your talents as a Black fimmaker as it is to be in a majority Black rock group. That Don Letts and Spooner got this far on covering both fronts is nothing less than phenomenal.

= Most so-called film fans couldn't name more than 5 Black filmmakers beyond Spike, Singleton & Van Peebles (if that far). But could name a slew of Italian-last named Americans, French, Japanese, etc. and each of their releases by heart.

[Rage_Proletaire]

CocoaPuss Zine said:

i'm sure you're nice, but if i wanted to get friend requests from white girls, i'd join blackplanet.

wow. that's all i can say.

Snicker.

Don't know if it's the same person or not, but I found myself with my jaw ajar when I got that invite. I felt blindsided. Something in the water certainly did not compute.

[CocoaPuss Zine]

wtf is up with this girl? i think she friend requested everyone. some people are accepting too. and it'd be cool if she was part of some discussions or about something but i think she's just promoting her own shit. some white people on here are cool, but i just got a fucked up feeling about her.

Rage_Proletaire said:

CocoaPuss Zine said:

i'm sure you're nice, but if i wanted to get friend requests from white girls, i'd join blackplanet.

wow. that's all i can say.

Snicker.

Don't know if it's the same person or not, but I found myself with my jaw ajar when I got that invite. I felt blindsided. Something in the water certainly did not compute.

[Rage_Proletaire]

CocoaPuss Zine said:

wtf is up with this girl? i think she friend requested everyone. some people are accepting too. and it'd be cool if she was part of some discussions or about something but i think she's just promoting her own shit. some white people on here are cool, but i just got a fucked up feeling about her.

Rage_Proletaire said:

Ditto; first thing I did was check to see which, if any, discussions she'd been a part of.

Could've been a joke, which I could take, to some degree. Could've been serious, which screams "white liberal guilt parasite safari vulture dick dong thrillseeker leech fay wray"

But that could just be me being mean. Instinct's a mofo.

[CaliforniaAfrican]

Are you Black folks talking about my AP friend, Madyson Parker? She's a sista! Ain't you never seed a blonde sista? Damn. Okay, she light, too. teehee

Rage_Proletaire said:

CocoaPuss Zine said:

wtf is up with this girl? i think she friend requested everyone. some people are accepting too. and it'd be cool if she was part of some discussions or about something but i think she's just promoting her own shit. some white people on here are cool, but i just got a fucked up feeling about her.

Rage_Proletaire said:

Ditto; first thing I did was check to see which, if any, discussions she'd been a part of.

Could've been a joke, which I could take, to some degree. Could've been serious, which screams "white liberal guilt parasite safari vulture dick dong thrillseeker leech fay wray"

But that could just be me being mean.

[Rage_Proletaire]

CaliforniaAfrican said:

Are you Black folks talking about my AP friend, Madyson Parker? She's a sista! Ain't you never seed a blonde sista? Damn. Okay, she light, too. teehee

Rage_Proletaire said:

CocoaPuss Zine said:

wtf is up with this girl? i think she friend requested everyone. some people are accepting too. and it'd be cool if she was part of some discussions or about something but i think she's just promoting her own shit. some white people on here are cool, but i just got a fucked up feeling about her.

Rage_Proletaire said:

Ditto; first thing I did was check to see which, if any, discussions she'd been a part of.

Could've been a joke, which I could take, to some degree. Could've been serious, which screams "white liberal guilt parasite safari vulture dick dong thrillseeker leech fay wray"

But that could just be me being mean.

Your friend needs to learn the secret handshake or sump'mn.

=P

[CocoaPuss Zine]

white people think they are entitled to be a part of EVERYTHING. they can't let us have one single thing to ourselves, except jail, appearances on maury, and perhaps the "press n curl". everything else is fair game. booooo white people. stay out of our mix.

Cool beans said:

Lmao at Black Planet and white people, SMMFH :| They're so confused