!!! AGAINST THE GRAIN: POST YOUR UNPOPULAR OPINIONS !!!

[Daoud]

It's BACK!

An all time great thread from the AP 1.0 foundation.

Massive props goes to the originator Onomatrix who brought us this powerful forum, inspired by by a forum on Playahata.com (if I'm correct). Ono, get on here and set it off with your unique perspective.

Objective: express the opinions that would normally get your run out of town if vocalized or presented. Example:

= Obama is not the best candidate but he's all we've got

= Black folks are our own worst enemy

= Women are too emotional

= Men are too emotionless

= Censorship is a good idea

= All women with perms hate their natural selves

= All men with dreads date white women

= Folks under 30 don't know anything about good music

= Chocolate owns vanilla

= J-Dilla couldn't touch Premeir, Large Pro, Pete Rock or Dre

...and so on (disclaimer: all the above examples do NOT represent my personal views, one or two maybe...).

This is not a place for full on debate & violent conflict, but please be free in how you express. And keep the page long flame-wars to private messages and off the boards.

Ready? Let's go!

[Ghettopunkrocker]

You just described most of my sister's male friends.

Rosenda said:

Considering how many gay male friends and coworkers I know, I'm sure any one of them (except one or two) would kick my black ass for this but it is hella true:

A loud angry gay man acting like an out of control rude mean nasty ill mannered bitchy PMS'y woman is not at ALL funny. How the hell and WHERE did you get the idea that THAT is the role model of acting womanly? If anything, Friend of Dorothy, that is in INSULT to WOMAN.

[Demetrius]

The Lure Lovers said:

Demetrius said:

I actually addressed most of that in a rebuttal to a similar reply So I'll address the friend question
I served with most of friends in ROTC, most of that time as either a leader or instructor, so over the course of 4 years I've called my friends "morons", "pissants", "pussies", "shitbirds","dipshits" as well as other colorful words the military uses to degrade it's personnel for crap performance. Another reason why we're friends is that they can take my verbal abuse, they already know what I think of them beforehand, because I frankly told them when they ASKED for my opinion (our commander asked us our opinions on the matter of religion during an early unit discussion) that's the difference, I don't walk up to peoples faces and force my views on them, I give my honest opinion when it is ASKED for or NEEDED, until then I'm my usual mute self (I speak only when it is necessary to do so).

Also I NEVER smile, I only have 3 emotions, "Nothing", "Amused" and "Pissed". Another reason why they're my friends is that they can deal with the fact that I'm a mean, cold and frigid person.

The Lure Lovers said:

Here's the catch 22 if you have already or plan to tell them your feelings your a hypocrite.(based on your post
) If you don't your just a fake ass cause you know to tell them would make them question their friendship with you.

MeToo!That was my rebuttal.
First I want to commend you on your brave service to your country. LOL
Your post(the first one) isn't even accurate but your trying to shove it down our throats. So I called you on it. Plus it was self righteous and annoying.

But I wasn't trying to pass it off as fact, this thread is for opinions, it'd be one thing if this were a fact based thread where we traded recipes and our future career pursuits. But it isn't, we all know that ALL black guys with dreads don't date white women.

Also I believe AIDS was intended to wipe out the gays first

[Demetrius]

BlackJeff said:

ROTC=Automaton

Not if your intended career path is Marine Corps Special operations

Regular infantry marines are taught to take more responsibility at a lower level than soldiers,
they operate with more flexibility that way, and that goes even more so for spec ops of any branch

[BlaqJeff]

Demetrius said:

BlackJeff said:

ROTC=Automaton

Not if your intended career path is Marine Corps Special operations

Regular infantry marines are taught to take more responsibility at a lower level than soldiers,
they operate with more flexibility that way, and that goes even more so for spec ops of any branch

Marine=Killing Automaton

[Daoud]

The Lure Lovers said:

meesh said:

people who argue on the internet at idiots. or just really bored and really like being right all the time.
everyone is right, according to them anyway. especially me.

See Demetrius this is a funny one. Mesh when you call someone an idiot I would think that you are looking for an argument which automatically makes you a hypocrite. Daoud said:

Hey Lure my bro: this Unpopular Opinions not Unpopular Judgements. And Demetrius, if someone doesn't dig your position, welcome, you've posted a winner.

Daoud you can't say shit. You still haven't showed me anything where we've had any serious dialog about anything I've ever posted. For you to make that grandiose statement that after almost 5 years you finally agreed with something I said without having any dialog with me is so judgmental. You just wanted to give people the impression that I'm totally full of shit without having to back it up.That's some underhanded fake ass shit your laying down. I'm not going to let you get away with it.

Listen you'll never see me talk about something I don't know about. This is the internet. Not real life.I've been enlightened by so many people on this board by just reading their posts. I can't force anyone to do anything. But I'm not into small talk ethier.One thing I realize is that the issues we talk about don't really mean shit if we can't reason or listen to reason. I see how we are lacking so much in that. And if arguing and name calling gets us to the point where we actually start being honest with each other.Which it does. Than I'll waste my time and energy to do it. Because I believe its worth it.

Aww Lure, did I trip on a nerve? Or are you just laughing your ass off behind your statements? I am...

Dude, I honestly have always respected your opinion and welcomed your posts. I don't know where you get that I'm trying to say you're full of shit, hunh? Heeheehee...
And there was nothing behind it but truth. I disagree on many posts with folks who I share much in common with but it ain't personal. I agree with many things you say but on the sex thread, I was just saying that on your post that I'm with you nearly 100 percent. That's it.

And someday I may dig deep into the archives to find one of our exchanges but why worry about the past? Current & future debates are much more fun. All (well most) jokes aside, what's more important is you're not dull and you keep it interesting. Never change.

[Demetrius]

BlackJeff said:

Demetrius said:

BlackJeff said:

ROTC=Automaton

Not if your intended career path is Marine Corps Special operations

Regular infantry marines are taught to take more responsibility at a lower level than soldiers,
they operate with more flexibility that way, and that goes even more so for spec ops of any branch

Marine=Killing Automaton

That aspect actually didn't bother me, my father (also a marine) taught me how to kill from a fairly young age, me and my sisters were the kids learning how to use rifles at 8 years old.

[The Lure Lovers]

Rosenda said:

I hear that and agree somewhat. But I also think that the only people sometimes you like to get into the argument phase have already made up their minds and just get pissed off that others don't agree with them about some topic they feel very strongly about. It's about mental and emotional control in that instance. That kind of shit does occasionally piss me off but not as much as it used to. If something good as far as honest discussion and opening someone else's mindset comes of the back and forth online here or anywhere else, then yes it's good. But do we know how often that result happens? I get a gut feeling if someone don't wanna engage in a discussion I will just drop it because I've gotten very selfish with my own energy. I'll only keep on the back and forth if it makes ME feel good somehow.

And if the other party just goes on about how full of shit my point of view is, then it's obvious they don't want to hear it or even consider what I'm talking about. And that is a waste in a way.

Plus we all live some completely different lives and have had very different paths and past experiences that colors everything we think and say. Yes, I DO think of that kind of shit before I open my mouth or before I put my feelings down in words here.

Lure and everyone don't let it get ugly and personal. We all are here to express our differences as much as our similarities. Which we all now we can't do around other more traditional minded people in our Black community.

"Everything we shut our eyes to, everything we run away from,
everything we deny, denigrate or despise,
serves to defeat us in the end.
What seems nasty, painful, evil, can become
a source of beauty, joy, and strength,
if faced with an open mind."

by:

Henry Miller

Listen! I wish you guys would focus more on what I'm saying than whether I'm pissed off or not because no matter what I type you really don't know what I'm feeling. I'm mean come on!!!! Honestly you don't know.So stop wasting your time. Focus on what I am saying......Focus!

[The Lure Lovers]

Demetrius said:

The Lure Lovers said:

But I wasn't trying to pass it off as fact, this thread is for opinions, it'd be one thing if this were a fact based thread where we traded recipes and our future career pursuits. But it isn't, we all know that ALL black guys with dreads don't date white women.

Also I believe AIDS was intended to wipe out the gays first

The problem with that soldier, is when you do make that opinion someone like " The Lure" will call you on it and if you don't have facts to back it up you will sound like a freakin mash potato, like you do now.

[Demetrius]

The Lure Lovers said:

Demetrius said:

The Lure Lovers said:

But I wasn't trying to pass it off as fact, this thread is for opinions, it'd be one thing if this were a fact based thread where we traded recipes and our future career pursuits. But it isn't, we all know that ALL black guys with dreads don't date white women.

Also I believe AIDS was intended to wipe out the gays first

The problem with that soldier, is when you do make that opinion someone like " The Lure" will call you on it and if you don't have facts to back it up you will sound like a freakin mash potato, like you do now.

So I guess Athiests don't question the intelligence of Theists or their faith or make parody religions like "The Church of The Flying Spaghetti Monster", I've personally witnnessed atheists make fun of religious people about as many times as I have heard religous people comdemn atheists to hell. Just because YOU have never seen or heard it, doesn't mean others haven't, or that it doesn't go on at all.

[The Lure Lovers]

Daoud said:

Aww Lure, did I trip on a nerve? Or are you just laughing your ass off behind your statements? I am... Dude, I honestly have always respected your opinion and welcomed your posts. I don't know where you get that I'm trying to say you're full of shit, hunh? Heeheehee...
And there was nothing behind it but truth. I disagree on many posts with folks who I share much in common with but it ain't personal. I agree with many things you say but on the sex thread, I was just saying that on your post that I'm with you nearly 100 percent. That's it.

And someday I may dig deep into the archives to find one of our exchanges but why worry about the past? Current & future debates are much more fun. All (well most) jokes aside, what's more important is you're not dull and you keep it interesting. Never change.

Listen Mr. Aaadmin!! It doesn't matter whether you tripped on a nerve or not.Instead of laughing you should be ashamed.
What matters is that you made a statement that I called you on and now you can't back it up.And to think with, all those compliments, I was going to let you slide. But no, you had to try and slip another one in.

This ain't about whether or not you respect my opinion or welcome my posts.
I clearly explained to you what my issue was.It isn't about what's behind it . I'm asking you how can you make a statement so grandiose without having any dialog with me.... No!!! Your not getting away.

You even made it come off like a special bulletin (Mark this day: when Daoud agreed almost 100% with a post LureLovers put up)
Please, you've got to be kidding!!!!
That shit was wack.If you can't even pull one thread on the fly you ain't got no business making a statement like this.
James you need to get rid of this cat.Quick!!!
Why worry about the past? Ha Ha OK Daoud at least tell me one debate we've had.You don't even have to show the post. If you can't do that then your full of shit.

[Daoud]

Happy Holidays Lure! See ya '09.
Stay tuned, heheheehee...

[The Lure Lovers]

Demetrius said:

So I guess Athiests don't question the intelligence of Theists or their faith or make parody religions like "The Church of The Flying Spaghetti Monster", I've personally witnnessed atheists make fun of religious people about as many times as I have heard religous people comdemn atheists to hell. Just because YOU have never seen or heard it, doesn't mean others haven't, or that it doesn't go on at all.

So what?? I bet if you called me out on anything I have to say about theist. Unlike you, I bet I can back it up.