=== L-D-S-R Confessional ===

[Daoud]

LOVE
SEX
DATING
RELATIONSHIPS
...confess your sins and feelings

Massive respect to this thread's originator from the O.G. AfroPunk board, Xiamin. Holla back mami, see ya soon up on here!

Get busy folks...

[Ken-K]

Bottom line, aside from the one fucked up situation I created for myself a while back, which you all know about, I've always tried to play straight with women. I don't like playing games.

[Mlle d. Sade]

lol, It's The Payback! You already know I'm 99.99% on the girls' side, even the crazy ones.

CocoaPuss Zine said:

playing with boys' emotions is super fun. it's like my favorite past time. i mean IT USED TO BE my favorite past time. lol. if a girl is messing with your emotions i'm going to side with her and cheer her on like 99.99% of the time. hahahahaha. i mean all the stuff guys get away with everyday, it's almost like pay back. it's not like guys don't play with our emotions too.

whatever man.

in other news: "i'm going to fuck you on friday. please intensify your stretching and meditation. i'm ready for you homeboy. you better bring it."

[sceneless]

Wow. That's really fucked up for yall to say. Pay back? Not all of us guys have fucked women over. In fact, growing up I was the one getting fucked over. I NEVER cheated, and outside of being a little cold and self absorbed I always tried to be a good b/f. Two wrongs don't make a right, no matter how you distort it. Just like you don't wanna be generalized, neither do I. I'm not my brother's keeper. Stop painting us all with the same brush.

[CocoaPuss Zine]

i know you aren't like that. i know a lot of guys aren't like that, and what i said was a generalization, but whoever started talking about his experience first (wasn't that ken k.?) started out with a gross generalization too. he said that he won't date east african women anymore because of what happened to him this time. then other guys agreed with him. nobody said "that's not fair, all east african women don't act like that" even though we know that they don't. how come if you're offended it means something, but when women are, guys are still high fiving him like he really said something big. it works both ways.

that's where it ends with me. once people start quoting each other to the nth degree i get overwhelmed and don't remember who said what to begin with.

sceneless said:

Wow. That's really fucked up for yall to say. Pay back? Not all of us guys have fucked women over. In fact, growing up I was the one getting fucked over. I NEVER cheated, and outside of being a little cold and self absorbed I always tried to be a good b/f. Two wrongs don't make a right, no matter how you distort it. Just like you don't wanna be generalized, neither do I. I'm not my brother's keeper. Stop painting us all with the same brush.

[Jervon]

Tried the eRomance shit. Never again. And if a chick says, "ain't no good man around" It automatically a RUNniggaRUN sign for me.

[LesYpersound]

fuck the games and clingy-ness... the "crazy" girls (and dudes) who screw straight men or bi/les girls over can gtfo.
to the original point though--strangers don't owe other strangers shit i agree with that, but also keep in mind that some ppl don't know what they want and other ppl get hurt unintentionally. :(

[Ken-K]

Believe me, no one's high-fiving me for shit. More often than not when I talk to friends about my issues with women, I'm doing something wrong, according to them. And most advice I'm given is stuff that's reliant on factors I couldn't possibly anticipate for. Unless I ask questions that would raise red flags in a girl the same way they'd raise flags for a man like when woman's quick to ask if I'm married or have kids, when i start chatting them up.

CocoaPuss Zine said:

i know you aren't like that. i know a lot of guys aren't like that, and what i said was a generalization, but whoever started talking about his experience first (wasn't that ken k.?) started out with a gross generalization too. he said that he won't date east african women anymore because of what happened to him this time. then other guys agreed with him. nobody said "that's not fair, all east african women don't act like that" even though we know that they don't. how come if you're offended it means something, but when women are, guys are still high fiving him like he really said something big. it works both ways.

that's where it ends with me. once people start quoting each other to the nth degree i get overwhelmed and don't remember who said what to begin with.

sceneless said:

Wow. That's really fucked up for yall to say. Pay back? Not all of us guys have fucked women over. In fact, growing up I was the one getting fucked over. I NEVER cheated, and outside of being a little cold and self absorbed I always tried to be a good b/f. Two wrongs don't make a right, no matter how you distort it. Just like you don't wanna be generalized, neither do I. I'm not my brother's keeper. Stop painting us all with the same brush.

[Xilomen]

I really want to marry my first love. I met him back in 8th grade and now I'm in college. He moved away to California and I still love him just the same. I hope I get to see him before the Army ships him off. It's weird because the first time I saw him....I had this gut feeling he was gonna be the one I marry. Only time will tell and God knows. I hope his birthday was great for him yesterday and I pray he and his family are healthy and safe. I truly love that man.

[Mlle d. Sade]

Yeah we know not all men are like that but the vast majority are. This is a fact of life as is the fucked up treatment we get daily for simply not being the ones on top in society- for being female and there for the pickings. Life isn't fair and I tend to treat others as I have been treated. It doesn't matter that two wrongs don't make a right, that is just the game. I'd rather be a "wrong" than getting run over all the time and just passively accepting it. It's like being the bitch rather than the doormat. It's part of the game we all play. And it's not even malicious, it's all part of being a woman and it's something I think a lot of women have kept a secret sort of like all the sexist things men keep secret and only discuss among each other. And like I said, it's not malicious- it's a matter of self defense. I don't do it to guys who are genuine or merely okay or fuzzy stuffed animals- the bastards who deserve it get it.

It's "the game" and it doesn't really bother me that men get buttsore and what to whine about it like life is one big giant even playing field for us women and you, blessed entitled and extremely lucky, men. I've got nothing to feel guilty about because no harm is done- most men don't even care, whatever little "revenge" a woman can get is nothing compared to what a man can do to a woman and that is because the playing field is severely lopsided. I'm not about to feel guilty about that, that's like feeling guilty about whtie guilt. It's not something I designed, it's not my fault. I'm not going to give up any leverage womankind might have over the big monolith of dicks that structured this society in such a way that we get punished for trying to live as freely as men get to. That's just too bad, so sad.

sceneless said:

Wow. That's really fucked up for yall to say. Pay back? Not all of us guys have fucked women over. In fact, growing up I was the one getting fucked over. I NEVER cheated, and outside of being a little cold and self absorbed I always tried to be a good b/f. Two wrongs don't make a right, no matter how you distort it. Just like you don't wanna be generalized, neither do I. I'm not my brother's keeper. Stop painting us all with the same brush.

[Mlle d. Sade]

Exactly! When a dude makes a generalization about women it's okay, it's recognized as a fact we do it and it's "fucked up". Dudes are up in here highfiving over serious fucked up shit to say about women "over here" and "over there" and we say something and it's "fucked up". That's exactly the kind of lopsided playing field I'm talking about and a small example of why I'm not going to be guilted for something that is a coping mechanism for the fucked up treatment women get every day for simply not being the ones who built these fucked up archetypes about sex and gender. Take a walk in our shoes, I don't think you'd be singing that "that's so fucked up" tune.

CocoaPuss Zine said:

i know you aren't like that. i know a lot of guys aren't like that, and what i said was a generalization, but whoever started talking about his experience first (wasn't that ken k.?) started out with a gross generalization too. he said that he won't date east african women anymore because of what happened to him this time. then other guys agreed with him. nobody said "that's not fair, all east african women don't act like that" even though we know that they don't. how come if you're offended it means something, but when women are, guys are still high fiving him like he really said something big. it works both ways.

that's where it ends with me. once people start quoting each other to the nth degree i get overwhelmed and don't remember who said what to begin with.

sceneless said:

Wow. That's really fucked up for yall to say. Pay back? Not all of us guys have fucked women over. In fact, growing up I was the one getting fucked over. I NEVER cheated, and outside of being a little cold and self absorbed I always tried to be a good b/f. Two wrongs don't make a right, no matter how you distort it. Just like you don't wanna be generalized, neither do I. I'm not my brother's keeper. Stop painting us all with the same brush.

[sceneless]

CocoaPuss Zine said:

i know you aren't like that. i know a lot of guys aren't like that, and what i said was a generalization, but whoever started talking about his experience first (wasn't that ken k.?) started out with a gross generalization too. he said that he won't date east african women anymore because of what happened to him this time. then other guys agreed with him. nobody said "that's not fair, all east african women don't act like that" even though we know that they don't. how come if you're offended it means something, but when women are, guys are still high fiving him like he really said something big. it works both ways.

that's where it ends with me. once people start quoting each other to the nth degree i get overwhelmed and don't remember who said what to begin with.

Ken got a few responses for what he said, and not all of em were "high fives". What he said was a generalization and no, not all east african women are like that. If he chooses not to date them then that's on him, but it would be fucked up and malicious if he said something like "East african women play too many games. That's why I fuck em over every chance I get." I would've responded the same.

[Daoud]

It's all good in the game. And as the one who was so-called accused of "hi-fiving" about east African women, re-read my statements. Just funny that by some person's perspective (not Cocoa), I should screw & mess with the the emotions of every woman that steps up and exotizes & fethishizes my race, look & nationality. Damn, I've got some catching up to do...

That ain't gonna happen, too tiring. And for real, whatever works for is fine ladies & gents. All I say for either side is 'caveat emptor'.